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No no and it was fine but never really used in heavy rain..

I know I usually keep my hand on the pot as I only ever boil water... Hey thank you for the positive feedback I really appreciate it.. Tom

Hi I am 6ft 1 inch or 185 cm . Yes these pads are wide long and thick but still have a very competitive weight..

Hey thank you for sharing your thoughts.. Absolutely. Some do but too many don't.. Best wishes Tom

I did talk about the pad warmth.. It was a simple video and not a review which I did explain.. I showed the temperature of 5 degrees on my Garmin, mentioned the weather forecast temperature and stated that I was comfortable. I also gave reference to the sleeping bag and tent which also affect warmth.. But I am sorry if this didn't come across as you expected.. best wishes Tom

@@TOMHEANEY100 Please don't take my comment as critical. I love what you do. I only meant that you were not clear on the main question. As we both said, you buried hints in 8 minutes of video. I'm merely suggesting a clear summary at the end. Or in the description. In any case, thank you for bringing this pad to our attention. Please carry on. :)

Hi Tom, thank you for sharing your thoughts... Yes Ill just have to wait a few months... best wishes Tom

Hi, thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.. I definitely didn't feel cold here at this temperature. I will definitely test at some point a bit colder...Tom

Hi Peter, I looked at this point and the zippers attach below the taped seam so very unlikely to leak... I know Samaya have made a number of improvements since the first models.. I done like mesh inners as too drafty in the winds I normally camp in... great to hear from you and best wishes.. Tom

How are you thank you for watching...Tom

Hey that you for the positive feedback...Its very much appreciated... best wishes and happy camping... Tom

Hey Gary, thank you for taking the time to comment and sharing your thoughts.. I have slept on this pad a few times now and definitely very happy with it.... It will be interesting to hear your thoughts after yo try it.... Tom

The 4-inch gives you a nicer window in how firm you like it, as some thin mats need to be hard or you are just on the ground, that said I also have a 7-inch... feels like a sofa.

@@DiabloOutdoors Thank you for sharing your thoughts.. Best wishes Tom

@@DiabloOutdoors hey thanks I’m in the market for a new pad similar to this one. What pads in market are 500g or less with an R value north of 3.5 that are 4.5 inches thick and cost under £100. I will definitely check them out before I panic buy this one. Cheers

@@DiabloOutdoors yeah I’ve owned the original xthem which is 2 inches thick and the new NXT is 3 inches thick but they cost around 220 and 250 respectively and are in the 7 R value region. I currently own a nemo tensor extreme which is 3.5 inches thick and has 8.5 R value but costs about 280. All these pads are 4 season and between 680 and 700g. I also own an uberlite which is 2 inches thick with a 2.3 R value but cost 220 and weighs 320g in long wide. This kilos pad is marketed as ultralight which I suppose it is setting aside the now discontinued uberlite. I still don’t know of anything else in the market that (on paper) offers what it does. That said real world doesn’t always marry up to paper stats as an example the big Agnes zoom ul doesn’t sleep anywhere near its claimed 4.5 R value. Thickness doesn’t always mean comfort but it’s definitely a significant contributor to it. The direct competition to this pad is all 3.5 inch thick or less that I am aware of. So I still can’t think of anything that directly compares. Sleeping pads really are a minefield unless you know exactly what your requirements are!

Hi thank you for placing your question here.. Nallo all the way.. its just bigger and better made with really good customer service and resale value.. I had a problem with the Abisko and Fjallraven really didn't want to know... The Nallo 2 just is a nicer tent with better quality... I know there is a difference in weight but the Nallo is also more durable and will last the test of time... I hope that helps... best wishes and let me know if you go for one.... Tom

@@TOMHEANEY100 thank you appreciate the reply 😁

@@cuprajake1 welcome

Just weighed it this moment 288g with lid... Tom

Unfortunately not.. They love getting promoted for free and sitting back and watching... Thank you for watching.. best wishes Tom

My Jannu has been sold... just too heavy for me now.... Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment... best wishes Tom

Hi Mark, thank you for watching and taking the time to comment... Yes I really like this tent and have no worries at all re the single skin aspect... I actually now have the Assaut 2 and really love it.... best wishes Tom

Yeah it's not a great way to describe but we are a long way off a better way to be used by the industry if ever.... Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment... best wishes Tom

While I do agree that "4 season" is perhaps not the best term, it is the language used in winter camping/mountaineering world and it is just one of those we have to accept. And if you are wanting to camp in harsh conditions, a wise person knows that a "4 season" tent is the way to go, and has nothing to do with "marketing speak."

Absolutely, thank you for watching and taking the time to comment... best wishes Tom

Hi the ML4 does have enough light for a two person tent but it will not last as long as the ML 6..The ML4 Lasts 2.5 hours on high power which isn't very long... BUT mid power of 50 lumen is about 8 hours.. Tom

@@TOMHEANEY100 thanks for information bro

@@faristaufiq8256 welcome

No it's a 70d floor so very substantial so no need IMO.. Hey thank you for watching and taking the time to comment... Best wishes Tom

Hey thank you.. Yes I have had a look and it's quite well featured too.. I actually really like this design of tent but not many about.. Hey thank you for the comment.. best wishes Tom

@@TOMHEANEY100 really thinking of trying the scarp, but. Infused on which version.. thinking about the Unna too, but the lack of the vestibule is worrying me; although people love that tent.

@@TOMHEANEY100 ya it’s one of my all time favs! So roomy and just lots of features.

Hey thank you for watching and leaving me a comment... best wishes Tom

@@TOMHEANEY100 🙂👍

Hi, thank you for the comment... Honestly I cannot give you this detail on a comment but here is some info... . The Scarp 1 and Abisko Lite 2 are much more winter tents and way too many pros and cons of each to try and detail here... I have reviewed all these tents and that gives you lots of detail and you then need to decide based on your preferences regarding features... The Samaya here has great ventilation, amazing build quality, space and low weight for these characteristics... I cant rank it because it depends on what features you value.. The Scarp will be stronger but less space, but longer pack size... The Abisko Lite 2 only one vestibule but a bigger one... I will be doing a tent awards video in about a month and comparing a number of tents but not all of them.....I hope this helps... Tom

Hey thank you for the feedback.. best wishes and much appreciated.. Tom

Yes I have bailed a few times in the past... The weather forecasts now are much better but many people dont check them or use them to their advantage.. At least on my channel I do lots of measured wind testing for those that are interested or appreciate the value of it... hey great to hear from you and happy camping.. Tom

Hey great to hear from you and I appreciate your support over the years.... Fantastic that you are still enjoying my videos... best wishes Tom

Hi David, thank you for sharing your thoughts.. I think we are such a long way off having some sort of measured system... its just so unregulated... 3 or 4 season ratings IMO are linked to the typical conditions normally expected with that time of year... best wishes and thank you once again for sharing your thoughts.. Tom.

Hey thank you for watcher and taking the time to comment.... best wishes Tom

Hey thank you so much for the super thanks... I really appreciate it.... best wishes Tom

@@TOMHEANEY100 Thank you for all your amazing review videos!

@@nilsedelstam8194 You are welcome one just ready to go in a few mins..... Tom

Yes it loved the tent.... thank you for the comment.... best wishes Tom

No no affect on inner at all...

Hi Oliver, thank you for watching and sharing your Hilleberg Experience... 3 very nice tents you have.... Tom

Hi Alex, sorry for the delay in my reply but I was actually on a camp when I picked up this comment.. Thank for the way in which you presented it.... I just haven't honestly had the same experience that you have.. I dont want to challenge you or just counter bit by bit what you have said. Mine and the other two Kilos Gear pads have great build quality... I will admit that the material feels plasticky but if this makes it easier to glue or bond and then work reliable long term then I am happy with that especially at this price point.. An XtHERM retails at £272 for the regular wide max the last time I looked and as you know they still suffer problems... I did not mention quality issues between the two mats because I didn't see any apart from the material feeling better on the XTherm and this may have or have not a functional difference... I really hope you can get a satisfactory outcome and I am sorry for the time you will have spent sorting this out... I have actually forwarded your comment to Kilos gear for their attention so we will see how that pans out... best wishes and than you again for you thought in this approach... Tom

@@TOMHEANEY100 thanks for the reply Tom and again the very pleasant way you responded. Kilos Gear have already processed the refund apparently (I suppose I wont know for sure until I have the payment, but I have no reason to be suspicious) and so that at least is excellent. My suspicion is that these will be much more vulnerable than the XTherms, but obviously, I haven't tested them. I am surprised you don't see quality issues in the manufacture though. The valves on mine for example are very poorly made - the plastic hasn't conformed fully to its mould shape. The welds around the outer seam are also inconsistent. Anyway there is no doubt this is a difficult market sector - we now want the earth! A thick, light, wide, comfortable, packable, warm affordable mattress with no long term issues with leaks and puncture resistant materials. Its no wonder, as you say, that all brands have problems!

Hi Alex, Kilos gear have got back to me with a detailed response and very quickly as usual.. I will now copy some of it here for your attention....This is from my contact at kilos Gear 'Regarding the issues that were pointed out, I’ll be taking this feedback to our production team immediately. To be honest, we rarely receive this kind of feedback, but that doesn’t mean we’ll dismiss it-we take it very seriously. It’s possible that we’ve overlooked something in this batch. It’s also possible that we haven’t established the best channels for customers to provide detailed feedback, or that after a refund, some customers simply don’t have the time to share their experience. Either way, we’ll get to the bottom of this.' 'If there are still concerns about the product’s performance, we’re more than happy to offer them a full refund. At the same time, we’d love for them to keep the products free of charge and continue testing them over the long term. Their feedback has been incredibly helpful, and we’d really appreciate any additional insights they may have after more extensive use.' 'if they, or anyone else from your audience, ever need assistance, feel free to direct them to our customer support team at hello@kilosgear.com. We’ll make sure they’re well taken care of and that any concerns are addressed smoothly. I hope this helps and every best wish... Tom

@@TOMHEANEY100 that's a pretty stellar response to be fair to them, you can't really ask for more. I’ll have to put them to the test now and see how I get on.

@@alexnail Yes Kilos Gear have been really first class to work with with and always given very detailed reply s to any questions I have asked...I hope now you are feeling more positive about this one.. best wishes Tom

Hey thank you for watching and taking the time to leave me a very positive comment... I see you have been watching some of my other videos too.... Tom

Hi I had to get it replaced and its started to leak....So that was it for me with Big Agnes ... BUT to be fair I actually many sleeping pads are unreliable... I am now using the KILOS Gear AeroCloud Elite... just as comfortable and half the price...Have a look on the Kilos gear website... best wishes Tom

@@TOMHEANEY100 Superb, thanks Tom. I am reluctant to jump from foam mattresses but understand for winter I need something inflatable, so will check out the AeroCloud Elite. Appreciated.

yes Hilleberg recommend vestibule into the wind for a number of their tents.. you just have to carefully manage getting in and out of the tent as well as more limited space for cooking.... I had a look at Mont tents and have always liked them... Tom